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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:48 am 
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do you put anything on the timber starter strip to ecourage them?

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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:04 pm 
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Simo wrote:
do you put anything on the timber starter strip to ecourage them?


No they do it all themselves, as long as there is a ridge for them to follow they will draw straight comb from it most of the time. Some people use pop sticks glued into the wax foundation kerf cut for them to start from but I glued a triangle of timber right the way along it as it is easier to cut the honey filled comb from than a popstick is.

Some people do rub bees wax along the starter ridge and some even melt wax along the ridge but it was suggested on a few forums I have read that the bees attach the wax to the timber more efficiently than metled wax adheres.

I will post a few pictures of the ridge I use on my frames and topbars tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:07 pm 
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Here is a picture of the starter wedge on the traditional frames, the bees building natural comb on the topbar hive bars which are also wedges and the fairy eating honeycomb that was taken from a rouge hive I attempted to cut out at a ladies place about 15 minutes earlier, it was real good honey too, just regular garden mix from suburbia.
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:11 pm 
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It is that time of year when everything is really cranking along, my grapes are looking like I had wished - a vineyard row from my front deck, flowers are out and eveything is producing what it should be.
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:13 pm 
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Artichokes are also starting to bloom, never ate any this year so there will be a tonne of seed if anyone wants some.
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:17 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:20 pm 
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My sugarcane is also starting to finally sprout some roots and I will transfer it to a wicking barrel soon. AP is just ticking along on humonia and seasol awaiting some fish.
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:25 pm 
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Artichoke flowers are cranking and the bees are having a field day with them only being 10 metres from the hive. They are about to have an even better time with the paperbark in the background just coming into flower as well :joy: Remember if you want some artichoke seed let me know, I will have a heap.
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:33 am 
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Would love you to save me some Burnsy :D I can pick them up next time I'm down there.

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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:41 pm 
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After over two weeks the artichokes are still flowering like crazy and the bees are still working them 3-6 at a time on each flower. Not sure they are touching the rest of the veggie garden at all though. I reckon I will have enough seed to fill a feed bag so am more than happy for people to drop by and help themselves once they have dried out.

Harvested the potatoes from the hay bed and was disappointed in the result. Maybe the hay sides did not keep the pea straw moist enough or something but althouth the plants bolted up through the pea straw and I backfilled around them nice and tight with straw the potatoes only formed in the dirt below where I originally planted the seed potatoe. Note I got sargent stripes and my toes in the shot for you :wink:

Corn has been slow to stat but has really started taking off the last two weeks and seems to like the wicking bed. Funnily enough the strawberries and other plants in the bed have also just started to take off so maybe it was just taking the bed a while to mature and start working well.
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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:57 am 
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Looks good Burnsy.

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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
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Thats a shame about the potatoes Burnsy, I was going to try that method next season. Do you think that if you backfill on top of the original straw with dirt, then add more straw on top of this and repeat a few times you would get a better yeild?

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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
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Simo, I think that would help. also I think not having solid sides on it maybe meant the straw did not stay as moist as it could have and mulch down properly.


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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
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our problem with the spuds was that the straw stayed too wet, and i didn't realise the dirt underneath was bone dry. By the time the tops started to die, it was too late to save them

I know people have good success with topping up some kind of cage, but I think next year I will just create a wicking bed for them and accept the space loss.

either that or accept that I have to buy spuds, but everything else comes from the garden


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 Post subject: Re: de casa Burns
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orcy2010 wrote:
either that or accept that I have to buy spuds, but everything else comes from the garden


Given you can buy good spuds for less that $2 a kilo this time of year and the seed potatoes I bought were nearly $20 as they were the fancy purple ones that isn't such a silly suggestion.


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